Honorary Award of the Nieznany Świat magazine for 2013 to Zdenko Domančić from Slovenia

NŚ: Welcome to Poland in a triple role: as a seminar leader of your self-developed therapy method, as the protagonist of a book written by Professor of Medical Sciences Radovan Starc, which has just been published on our market, and as the winner of this year’s “Nieznany Świat” award, so far a secret. For the official announcement of this decision will be made in the December issue of the magazine. But you already know about it… (the interview took place on 26 September and we signed the diploma for Domančić on November 1st – Editor’s note)

ZD: And I thank you for the award, granted to me by a reputable and esteemed magazine in Europe. It is a great joy for me and an inspiration to continue working for the wellbeing of the sick.

NŚ: In connection with your announced arrival in Warsaw – in the August issue we devoted an extensive block of publications to your therapeutic activities. We know a lot of people dealing with energy and spiritual therapies in Poland and around the world, and these are people with famous names, but we must admit that against their background you seem to be a special figure. After reading the experiments and scientific tests you were subjected to – and they are extremely significant as far as their results are concerned, as you can read, among other things, in Professor Radovan Starc’s book „Healing with Bioenergy according to the Zdenko Domančić Method“ – we have labeled you as probably the most reliable and best researched healer in the world. However, the center you run in Bled near Ljubljana, and above all the educational institution within which bioenergotherapists are trained using the Domančić method in a system of several levels of education, is unique in Europe.

ZD: We owe the creation of this facility, which I co-founded, to the Croatian state.

NŚ: Slovenian.

ZD: No, Croatian. The Croatian Ministries of Education and Health are signed under its foundation act. Slovenia, on the other hand, has been a base and a point of support for me for more than 20 years.

The clinic in Bled was conceived in such a way that thousands of people come to it, whom we treat with my method, and at the same time we hold training courses and seminars there for therapists from all over the world. We fought for this opportunity – I am talking about both the educational system and the creation of a centre for complementary treatment – for almost 30 years. It wasn’t easy, but in the end we achieved our goal, and today scientists can do their doctorates on my method. We just had to endure everything – and we did. Because one match has more causal power in it than a ton of gunpowder.

NŚ: What determined the final success? Faith?

ZD: Faith has various positive creative, but sometimes negative, destructive faces. In the past, it was precisely in the name of faith that tens of thousands of innocent women were burnt at the stake throughout Europe, accusing them of being witches.

NŚ: Have you, too, faced absurd accusations from the Church in your country that in your therapeutic activities you use energies of “unknown origin”, ergo – as some clerics suggest – of demonic origin, which reeks of the Middle Ages?

ZD: My method has a solid scientific basis today. However, the kind of attitudes and actions just mentioned must not be passed over, just as the thousands of innocent victims who lost their lives to the terror of the church orthodox cannot be forgotten.

I’d like to say something in this regard. At one time, a delegation of Templars came to me to present me with the badge of an honorary member of their organisation. I had no idea they were so flexible. I thanked them for the offer, but did not take it. I said that out of respect for my colleagues who were once burned at the stake, I do not want to be a member of your organisation. Incidentally, every innocent victim will come back in some way to give them the respect they deserve.

Giordano Bruno was killed for daring to challenge the religious dogmas of his time. And do you know what a dogma is? It is a lie. Because in the past the transmitter of knowledge was the Church, people were told that the Earth was flat and held up by four elephants. When I was a kid, I used to wonder who was feeding these elephants and what they were standing on. /laughs/

But in earnest. I believe that no one has the right to claim that he alone has a monopoly on truth. God does not step with two feet, it is not a Being similar to us. God is energy and memory of millions of years. We will all at some point merge with this energy, which is pure God. This will happen when our current energies are purified and we no longer have to participate in the drama called life as we know it today.

By the way. The Creator created me, but also this plant growing next to me. Doesn’t that hint at something?

NŚ: Starting from this assumption, he has also created people who attack and denounce these types of treatment methods, like yours, as acrimoniously as pointlessly.

ZD: One should not give undue importance to this. CHANGES CANNOT BE STOPPED. This also applies to the dogmatism of the scientific community.

NŚ: As far as the last point is concerned, in the case of Slovenia, the breach seems to be huge, as evidenced by the aforementioned book by Professor Starc and the names of doctors and other representatives of the scientific community appearing under the protocols of experiments with your participation. Incidentally, we heard that Professor Starc was to come with you to Warsaw to help promote his book. Why didn’t he come?

ZD: He was held up at the last minute by important obligations with his work at the Department of Cardiology at the University Clinical Center in Ljubljana, where he is head of the department. I’m sure there will still be an opportunity to meet with him.

NŚ: Why do you think natural and alternative therapies are so persistently fought against by some doctors?

ZD: Natural medicine is actually a continuation of tradition. This tradition is thousands of years old, while academic medicine has only been around for two hundred years and, to make matters worse, has sold out to pharma. The pharmaceutical industry has corrupted medicine. I repeat again that an integral part of our educational establishment is the Ministry of Health (that’s exactly how it is in the transcript of the translator’s statement – Editor’s note), and I’m needed enough by them to forgive me for what I say.

NŚ: If we have understood your introduction about the Church correctly, incidentally completely unplanned by us, has its meaning in the sense that this institution claims the right to limit man’s contracts with God and the healing energy. However, such a limit does not exist, and no one has the right or authority to set one. Because it is available to every human being regardless of what religion they profess.

ZD: The attempt by some church hierarchs to impose a monopoly of judgement in this regard is sheer absurdity. Let me refer here to an authentic event. When the Slovenian Cardinal Rode ( it’s about Cardinal Franz Rode – Note: NŚ) was leaving for the Vatican, the entire diplomatic corps was invited, including me and my wife. And then the Cardinal came up to me, put his hand on my shoulder and said: Mr Domančić, you found yourself in our chaos. You jumped into it like a hare into the cabbage.

In turn, another Slovenian cardinal asked a certain person if it was true that Domančić did not believe in God. What was the answer? One could say that I indeed do not believe in God, because I know that He is (so I do not need to believe in Him). As you can see, this is a certain kind of dialogue that is being resisted in the Slovenian Church. However, I repeat: changes cannot be stopped.

Our common Father, who knows all and can do all, has chosen in my person one who is disobedient but stubborn enough. That is why my task is to do good and speak the truth. I bow down to no one but the Creator. If someone asks me, for example, how much time I devote to prayer, I answer eight to nine hours every day, because for me, a form of prayer is what I do. My therapy is a form of prayer for me. In my mind, I turn to God – it is a kind of mental conversation – asking him to give me the strength to help unfortunate people.

NŚ: Let’s go into more detail about your therapies. In the film „Think about it”, which was broadcast by the „Discovery Channel” and the BBC which we watched, you describe yourself as an „immune system mechanic”. Could you elaborate on this thought? How does the Zdenko Domančić method differ from other approaches and techniques of working with bioenergy?

ZD: What makes it special, in the first place, is that I have allowed to test my method countless times by scientists and medicine. Its effectiveness was verified in a very simple way, e.g. someone who had problems with leukaemia was tested before and after the therapy. In this way, it was possible to convince oneself exactly what results this method brings. In addition to this, we have developed certain procedures, both substantial and ethical, which have been written down in the form of seven basic techniques in bioenergy therapy according to my method (you can find them in our script), in addition there is a therapist’s code of ethics. According to it, we never, for example, interfere with the therapy administered to the patient by mainstream medicine.

NŚ: Never? Even if, in your opinion, it is incorrect?

ZD: Even then. We also do not accept patients who do not have a medical diagnosis. We then refer them to a doctor and only after the formulation of a diagnosis do we apply our therapy, for which we do not charge in advance, leaving it to the discretion and possibilities of the patients themselves. These are just some of the basic principles that guide our work.

Generally speaking, I am not the one waving my arms around, putting on some fancy outfit and claiming that I can do everything. Instead, I allow the testing of my method, I prove that it is effective.

NŚ: Just a moment. We wanted, however, because it’s important, to clarify the essence of the problem. Is your method primarily physics or spirit? Or perhaps a combination of both?

ZD: Each of our cells in the body has a certain envelope, and the body has an aura around it. All these systems of the body have arisen from a certain vital base. The energy I use is informed energy. When the immune system is in dysfunction, it has to be repaired. We repair the same thing, with the same thing. We use the same material. Our body is made up of physical, energetic, mental and spiritual parts. They interact with each other in different ways, such as the emotions and the rational (mental) side. When we make decisions that are important to us, we should be guided by reason, by rationality, not by emotions.

NŚ: How did it come about that, such important research was conducted with you at the Institute of Oncology in Ljubljana and several other scientific institutions? We ask this because the results of these experiments are sensational ( more about this in the article published in No. 8 of the NŚ and Professor Starc’s book – editor’s note). By the way, it is hard to resist the bitter reflection that in Poland it would be impossible to even initiate similar experiments. However, the facts are that tangible evidence remained in the form of photos and experimental results, which are very impressive.

ZD: If I had healed several hundred thousand people in Poland, I think similar studies could be conducted here as well. The problem in Europe and the world is that there are no strong, charismatic healers. What have I built my brand on? On the fact that I am not afraid of any laboratory tests, verification, participation in scientific experiments. I am not afraid because I know the value of my method.

The doctors who conducted the tests with me at the Institute of Oncology could not believe that the cells placed in the tubes, which were damaged, for example due to cancerous changes, were literally dying before their eyes. And when they put healthy and infected cells into the samples, only the latter died, while the healthy ones remained alive. At this point, previous knowledge (science, intellect) becomes helpless, unable to explain it. Because something we can call a miracle is being created before our eyes. And a miracle is actually the privilege of ordinary people. /laughter/

NŚ: If one were to reduce what you are saying to a certain synthesis, it would be that it was the therapeutic efficacy that caused research to be conducted with you… is that right?

ZD: You are probably familiar with an experiment I conducted involving one hundred and twenty diabetics with dry and wet gangrene. These people were waiting for lower limb amputations. This experiment was observed live, as it were, by more than 400 doctors and scientists, and everything that happened during it was documented in the form of photographs and films. And in these photos, you can see how the wounds are diminishing. All the patients started walking, not a single one needed amputation. The journalist Dražen Jakčin later wrote a book on the subject (The Healer Domančić, Treatment with Bioenergy – A report of the scientific research – editor’s note NŚ)

NŚ: You are undoubtedly a man of great faith, believing that if you lived in Poland, in the face of your therapeutic effects, experiments would be undertaken. Well, nothing would happen, because the so-called medical authorities would classify the whole thing as a placebo effect, which they do all the time, spinning this concept in public discussions like a pancake on a frying pan.

ZD: What kind of placebo? What are you talking about? When I tried to explain what this vital energy is, we immersed calcium carbonate in an aqueous solution. This was done by the best chemists in Europe. It turned out that the calcium carbonate forms into crystals (we recommend reading pages 135-136 of the book Healing with Bioenergy… – editor’s note), and then, in contact with energy, transforms from the form of crystals into the seed form. – AND these are already forms from the plant world! By showing that inanimate matter can be transformed into living matter, I have silenced my opponents.

NŚ: As a magazine, we often clash, with religious fundamentalism on the one hand, and scientific fundamentalism on the other. Both are dangerous, the scientific one as well. In general, we stand on the position that everyone must be free to choose the therapy that suits them best. No one has the right to impose on anyone what treatment path to take, regardless of whether these are natural or pharmacological therapies, and, as far as the whole philosophy of the pharmaceutical companies is concerned, we know well, they do everything to treat people, but not to heal them. That is their overriding idea.

ZD: Big pharmaceutical corporations have taken over medicine, corrupting its representatives. For more than 30 years I have been working on perfecting my method, and because of this I am able to cure today not only humans, but also plants. Many veterinarians have also graduated from my seminar, and they can also treat animals in the same way. I will leave behind a method that will be present among people regardless of race, origin, skin color or where they live.

NŚ: During the experiment we just discussed, did you make any assumptions about what would come out of these crystals, or was it an “on the spur of the moment” effect?

ZD: I was aware that some form of life would arise, but what shape it would take, what it would look like, I didn’t know.

NŚ: Are you aware of what was going on here in Poland, regarding your arrival, when we wrote about it? Hundreds of patients called the organizers. This happened despite the fact that it was known that you primarily teach your method, and this will also be the case during the seminar in Warsaw, during which you and your associates will manage to receive no more than a few dozen people. More than a thousand of them applied. Doesn’t the responsibility involved overwhelm you? Because a terrible amount of human misery is revealed on this occasion. And the most important thing: how do you interpret the fact that some people can be helped, but some cannot? What mechanism determines this?

ZD: The state of the human body is decisive. It’s like the battery in a car. If its energy level depletes, even though we charge it once again, the battery will not work.

NŚ: Why did you decide to set up your own clinic – with an otherwise very special status? After all, you could have helped patients in public health care facilities.

ZD: When Professor Starc said: – We will now work together in Slovenian hospitals, I replied that I could not agree to that. Why? Because medicine is monopolised. And a monopoly is in other words a dictatorship, which is never good and is not guided by respect for people. I was born in the delivery room of a hospital, I was admitted by a midwife, so I am also in some sense a child of the existing system, and in general I have nothing against academic medicine. What I do object to is degeneration , corruption and pharmaceutical collusion. My therapists do what I have taught them to do. Working within the confines of academic medicine, I would not have the opportunity to do so. However, the choice of therapy is up to the patient.

NŚ: Is there any guarantee that the people you have taught your method will keep it pure, effective and ethical? Are there any safeguards in place?

ZD: This method is patented and is my intellectual property. We will always oppose those who, using it, do not follow the code of ethics they signed. One such fundamental principle, as I have already mentioned, is not to set any rigid fee for therapy. This is left to the will and discretion of the patient himself, and incidentally is an important selection instrument in recommending therapists for this method. The gift we give comes from a pure, open heart, and the money received for work based on this principle does not burn the hands. In general, it is worth remembering that if you take money from someone, you may end up having problems with yourself. Also with your health.

I am not afraid of anything. I do good. The more than one million six hundred and fifty thousand patients who have passed through my care over the past thirty-odd years have included billionaires and rich sheikhs, but also poor people and orphans. I never ask anyone questions about their material status, and in these 33 years I have not received a single complaint.

I started my work in Germany. In a well-known, very wealthy family, I cured one of its members. They thanked me for it and that was the end of it, and I thought: what a moron I am that I don’t get any benefit from this. But it also occurred to me that my job was not just to cure, it was to create something bigger, to refine a method that works today.

I will refer again to the film Think about it. Look at the names of the academics who express themselves in this documentary. One Israeli politician came to meet the little Zdenko. The same thing happened in Vienna. A prominent musician at the philharmonic there was suffering from multiple sclerosis and before the concert he was looking for me in the foyer. We then went to the dressing room, where I treated his fingers so that he could continue playing. This is a very simple method; it looks spectacular, but it works. Another example. This film features a resident of Israel whom I treated for chronic cystitis and bleeding. It was a long-distance therapy: while I was on one of the Croatian islands, this woman was in Tel Aviv. It all took about 10 minutes, and the blood disappeared from the urine. I have had a great many such experiences.

NŚ: One could venture to say that you have a dual role. First: you help the sick with your method, and second, you try to raise awareness that humanity has lost something that was, as it were, a natural, immanent part of our existence on the planet. It is about access to intelligent, invigorating energy…

ZD: I can agree on the role of a man who, with his method, helps cure serious diseases. But at the same time I would like to show others what I have convinced myself of: That it is possible to transcend the limits of human consciousness, beyond which there is something we are not aware of, because the power and potential of our brain still remain a great mystery.

NŚ: We would love to come to Bled in the future to see how your center operates on a daily basis. Is that possible?

ZD: You are cordially invited.

NŚ: Finally, we would like to ask you to give our readers a piece of advice for life. These are people whose life and spiritual path is such that they believe in this kind of therapy. We hope that you will confirm them in this and give them encouragement in their daily lives.

ZD: The message I would like to convey is this: You are what you think and what you live by. Believe in yourself.

NŚ: Thank you for the interview.

We owe the simultaneous translation from Croatian of the interview with Zdenko Domančić, which we conducted on 26 September at the Novotel in Warsaw, to Joanna Dróżdż, whom we thank for her professionalism and significant contribution to the smooth conduct of the three-hour interview. Out of necessity, we were only able to present the most important aspects of the conversation.

Photos: Tomasz Durlak

Translation: Christoph Mencel